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| Janemba > Hildegarn ; Debunked | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 19 2014, 09:28 PM (3,095 Views) | |
| Alex D. Boss | May 19 2014, 09:28 PM Post #1 |
 
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We should put the final nail in the coffin right now. We had 'fail' statements about Janemba > Hildegarn from a Toei guy , but it got removed from the site. So this argument should be thrown in a trash can. So everyone rides with Hildegarn > Janemba , right? Or is there any issues we can solve? |
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| + Clearin | May 19 2014, 09:29 PM Post #2 |
 
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Where's the debunking? |
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| + Majin Vegeta | May 19 2014, 09:31 PM Post #3 |
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Nah, I agree with the Hildegran>Janemba, that stamement was foolish all along IMHO, basing of how good two different Goku's fare is foolish, if that statement was true then SSJ2 Vegeta from M12 should also be haxed but we know he was only as powerfull as Buu Saga which immediatly brings down the Janemba>Hiru think. |
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| Alex D. Boss | May 19 2014, 09:38 PM Post #4 |
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This got removed from the site. Edited by Alex D. Boss, May 19 2014, 09:44 PM.
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | May 19 2014, 09:40 PM Post #5 |
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the whole site was taken down, btw as for the each villian is stronger quote, the dude who says it says he ''tried'' to make each villain stronger so not successful and he talks about broli as if hes the strongest bar beerus so..... |
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| Alex D. Boss | May 19 2014, 09:49 PM Post #6 |
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You mean this? Well , why shouldn't we follow it.. |
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| + Clearin | May 19 2014, 09:51 PM Post #7 |
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If this is true (I don't know the site) then this is some of the weakest evidence agaisnt anything I've ever seen. It's like claiming life didn't exist before recorded history... The quote wasn't removed from the site because it was wrong, it was removed because the entire site went down, if I'm to believe this. Regardless lack of evidence isn't evidence for anything. So what if the quote was removed, just because there is no written evidence flatout saying Janemba > Hirudegarn doesn't automatically mean Hirudegarn > Janemba, because there's no written evidence for that either, so the same logic can be applied the other way around. That quote from Toei was the only statement ever comparing the two directly, and just because it doesn't exist anymore doesn't make it any less true, unless it was removed specifically because they thought it was wrong, but if the entire site went down it doesn't seem to be the case. It's impossible to judge between two completely unconnected movies because the powers might be completely different. Maybe Goku was more haxed in movie 12 than movie 13 even, maybe he wasn't haxed at all in movie 12. We have no idea Toei does what Toei wants. I don't really know, or care, who is stronger, but a single statement is better than no statements. And if we don't take that statement into account because it's gone, it still leaves both sides with 0 evidence, making either as likely as the other. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | May 19 2014, 09:55 PM Post #8 |
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hes paraphrasing form someone else ''In handling the scripts for the films, what I always worried about each time was the problem of what to do about the opponent Goku fights against. That’s because, at the very least, they had to be stronger than [the ones from] the previous movie. After much hard work, I was unable to come up with an opponent stronger than Broli, and fell into a rut where I made him appear three times. That is to say, there’s the matter of questioning the idea of Broli as the strongest. As you are well aware, vehement opinions on the subject have been flying back and forth on this message board, as well as a variety of [other] websites. For this time, Goku’s opponent, designed by Toriyama-sensei, was even a God of Destruction. In the world of Dragon Ball Z, that’s a setting where even Broli, before the God of Destruction, would face a gap like that between a Yokozuna and the very bottom of the sumo ranks. That Broli, reduced to a pushover. Only, from the impression I got of the character on the screen, Broli was scarier, no contest. Am I the only one who found that Broli looked overwhelmingly frightening? Or am I just biased towards my own creation? Any more than this would become a spoiler, so I’ll hold off on it, but Noppo would like to hear the impressions of the Broli fans…. By all means, please see this work, which had a turnout of one million people in the first six days it was out.'' not every villian was stronger in the end and he tries to place broli as the strongest bar beerus....... @clearin, the point was that alex was saying its false cause it was taken down i was just trying to show that it wasnt the quote specially taken down but the site Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, May 19 2014, 09:58 PM.
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| Alex D. Boss | May 19 2014, 09:55 PM Post #9 |
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Site wasn't taken down , the statement got removed. Months later, the movie scriptwriter from Toei stated about the quote what I posted , Clearin. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | May 19 2014, 09:58 PM Post #10 |
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could you please post the link to the alleged site then? |
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| + Kaboom | May 19 2014, 10:00 PM Post #11 |
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I disagree with the purpose of this thread solely for the incredibly sour "nobody can be allowed to think this thing that I don't like" attitude in the first post. |
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| Alex D. Boss | May 19 2014, 10:02 PM Post #12 |
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The statement was never seen , shown anywhere later again. It wasn't a tolerant information from a Toei guy who hasn't work for years. |
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| + Clearin | May 19 2014, 10:04 PM Post #13 |
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The statement was never seen? Then where did this information come from and how do you know it's been removed? |
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| Alex D. Boss | May 19 2014, 10:07 PM Post #14 |
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It was never seen after it got removed. Meaning that it wasn't a reliable information. |
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| + Yusuke | May 19 2014, 10:20 PM Post #15 |
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Oh boy, everyone knows where this thread is going! lol. After having an 8+ page debate on this very subject, my aptitude for debating it has been flushed down the toilet. Usually, I roll with... SSJ Vegito > Tranformed Hiru >= M13 SSJ3 Goku >> M13 SSJ3 Gotenks >> Base Hiru (Full Body) > M13 SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta > Ultimate Gohan > Canon SSJ3 Gotenks > Super Buu >> SSJ Gogeta > SSJ Gotenks Post > Super Janemba > M12 SSJ3 Goku Oh well, I feel that this topic is very Broly esque lol. Nothin but a can of worms if you ask me. |
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